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There are a number of uses of this phrase which i paraphrase here that basically is to uphold why a film has been placed on such a list. The whole point of the list is that it has a particular level of impact and relevancy on society and as such such be, according to the enabling legislation, preserved etc. These films do not just jiump off a piece of paper and land on the list. There is a vetting process and if by the end it lands on the list then yes it does have what it shpuld have for society etc. To say so each time in a WP article is sort of making a mayonnaise white bread sandwich--there is nothing there. What we should have in the film articles hat should also mention being on the National Firm Registry list is WHY THEY DESERVE TO BE ON THE LIST. That informstion is clearly to be found on the appropriate Library of Congress website for the Film Board. All we have to do is link them up and automatically supply citations. That is what i did here. I put some straw in the mud, made some bricks linking back to the sources and then transferred. Just because your system views this as vandalism is the dault of the the system not recognising what is happening. We use the internet and we use compuetrs so why not let them help us get the job done.2605:E000:9143:7000:995A:C286:EE14:C81D (talk) 22:42, 18 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In my opinion, nothing more need be done. The claims are cited to the proper source where further information can be found. We certainly do not need to add further details or citations to the lede sections of articles, as you have been doing. ---The Old JacobiteThe '4501:55, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I think it is indulgent, and certainly overkill to repeat the blurb in the lead. Is there any film in the National Film Registry that isn't regarded as "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant"? It's just the blurb. It would be like a saying the Best Picture winner at the oscars won the award for "outstanding achievement in motion picture art" in each and every case. It is reasonable to cover it in the main body of the article but I think it is sufficient to simply state the film has been added to the National Film Registry in the lead itself. This is the approach taken at Gone with the Wind (film) which briefly mentions the National Film Registry in the lead while Gone with the Wind (film)#Industry recognition explains what that exactly entails. Betty Logan (talk) 09:22, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I've just realized that most of what I have written is largely irrelevant (I should have looked at the dispute more carefully) and that TheOldJacobite has restored the version I mostly advocate. I am going to tighten the wording up slightly though. Betty Logan (talk) 09:34, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There seems to be a dispute on the Cast list over whether Kathleen Turner and Amy Irving, the speaking and singing voices of Jessica Rabbit, should be listed there despite the former not being credited. What's the right way to do it? Would it help if someone sourced Turner's involvement? Irving is credited as performer of "Why don't you do right?", Jessica's song in the movie. Crboyer (talk) 06:08, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
As the role is uncredited, it should not be listed in the cast. With a source, it could be discussed in the production section. I moved Amy Irving's role to the "additional voices" subsection. ---The Old JacobiteThe '4512:46, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Shes listed on her own page as playing the role, there numerous sources pointing out that she did, even TheOldJacobite himself says she did, wikipedia is not censored and there no logical reason, requirement or argument the leave her out.86.179.135.115 (talk) 08:29, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a case of censorship, and to claim it is smacks of zealotry. Generally Wikipedia uses the cast list in the film itself when deciding who should and shouldn't appear in the cast list of an article. In this case Turner doesn't appear in the film cast list, ergo she doesn't appear in the article cast list. Chaheel Riens (talk) 09:59, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The article claims archival voice samples of Clarence Nash (Donald Duck's original VO) was used in the film. I'm not certain this is true. The citation given links to a YouTube video which has since been deleted. On what I can only assume is the reupload of this video (as it's the same title), it's a video of the Nostalgia Critic stating this factoid without proof or source (I guess he got it from the trivia section of IMDB? Which is also not-sourced). There is no proof anywhere from any official source that this is true? I think it'll be fitting to remove this piece of trivia unless citable proof can be given. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.90.90.247 (talk) 16:22, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It used to be that that the poster caption for this article read “Theatrical release poster by Steven Chorney”, however, the poster was in fact not done by Chorney (who did a different poster) but by Mick McGinty. I corrected this (for those concerned, I attached an obviously credible source for this caption). However, a user Called Betty Logan undid by edit, writing “The creator is irrelevant, its purpose is to identify the film. The creator should be credited on the file page.” I disagree- the purpose of Wikipedia is to spread information, and who did a movie poster is certainly notable and interesting information in my eyes, not to mention many movie poster captions on Wikipedia credit the artists. I STRONGLY recommend you take a look at the conversation she and I had on this subject, where she argues the artist should be credited exclusively in the file, and I say it should by immediately viewable, which can be found on her talk page (under “Who Framed Roger Rabbit?”) so you can decide who’s in the right and give your input so something comes of this.
Firstly, I want to say that I genuinely appreciate you contributing to this!
I read the article snippet you provided, and, in a way, it does prove you right. However -and I’m not trying to be a sore loser; this obviously isn’t a personal matter- I can’t help but think that the amount of movie poster captions that do list the artist have created an unwritten rule that it’s something you can do. Here’s a list of articles of movies that list the artist in their poster caption (I’d understand if you’re concerned that I was the one who edited some of these myself, but I assure you that I didn’t modify one of them):
So, it is my point of view that although Wikipedia’s rules do write against this, it has been happening for so long, and is so common, why stop now? Really, what’s the harm in it? I mean, the average reader isn’t going to look in some obscure file. I respectfully ask you to answer this: do you propose the wise thing to do is to edit every one of those poster captions. What will that REALLYachieve?
Please note that I am by no means trying to start an argument or flamewar, nor do I accuse you of bad faith. I purely ask you to reconsider.
I found this conversation through a Wikipedia rabbit hole. This is a fascinating discussion for an inexperienced editor such as me to discover. Thank you to all involved: @MikeAllen@The Denton Dossier@Betty Logan
Since Denton Dossier corrected the existing artist credit for the theatrical release poster (from Steven Chorney to Mick McGinty) then it seems there is precedence for the Who Framed Roger Rabbit article to include credit to the artist in the infobox caption.
The quoted statement in MOS:CREDITS that “[u]nless relevant to the subject, do not credit the image author or copyright holder in the article” is motivated by the assumption that it is “not necessary to fulfill attribution requirements of the GFDL or Creative Commons licenses as long as the appropriate credit is on the image description page” rather than by the editorial belief that adding an artist credit detracts from the article.
I would suggest that the current caption of “Theatrical release poster” is improved with the addition of relevant information like the artist's name and a corresponding citation.
I am in favour of including the artist’s name in the image caption (“Theatrical release poster by Mick McGinty”) especially since Denton Dossier had corrected an existing artist credit that was erroneously attributed to a different artist. Precedence would seem to allow for reasonable deviation from Wikipedia guidelines as long as an article is improved or at the very least not harmed by an edit that may be characterized as unnecessary.
So why does this need to be in the infobox caption and not in the body of the article, if it is so notable? The infobox is designed to summarize the whole article, not introduce new information (without a third party source). MikeAllen19:53, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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